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The Butterfly Effect

Have anyone of you heard about the Butterfly Effect, some call it The Mandela Effect.  This is when people could remember an event in the past that never really happened.  A good example is Nelson Mandela, a lot of people remembered reports that Nelson Mandela died in a prison in the 1980's but he didn't he even became the president of South Africa and died in 2013.  

I was doing some research in this subject or phenomenon and was trying to find out and search for a subject that I can relate to, when I saw something that interests me. Have you ever bought or  tasted "JIFFY", it's a peanut butter brand I thought existed, I mean growing up I could remember opening bottles of Jiffy peanut butter which has 2 variants then, the creamy smooth original and the crunchy one.  

Well it seems that there was no Peanut Butter with that brand, there's never was a Jiffy peanut butter, I asked several of my friends and two of them in their late 20's said that I got it all wrong it's not "JIFFY", it's "JIFF" and they had it when they were kids until their late teens.  And I told them that there's no Peanut Butter brand "JIFF" and they wont believe me.  I told them that there's no Jiffy and no Jiffy but there's seems to be one branded as "JIF".  And they laugh until they googled it and Jif was the closest brand of peanut butter that they could find.

What is your take on this?  Is something weird going on?

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Kakashi2020
The Mandela Effect which some people also refer to as a kind of Butterfly Effect has many examples like in the film Star Wars in which the line "Luke, I am your father" was not said instead what was said was "No, I am your father" again like Jiffy as to jif to me has no sense because Jiffy sounds more appealing than jif and the first line that begins with "Luke" sounds more correct than "no". Did you know that the Golden droid C3PO in starwars isn't really gold, it's legs are silver. And why do I remember that the United States has 51 or 52 states when it has only 50? How about Sex in the City well it seems now it's Sex and the City.



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DenisP
As a really enthusiastic Star Wars fan, the example of the exchange between Luke and Darth Vader never occurred with me. I watched the original trilogy dozens of times as a kid, and knew it practically line for line, so I always knew it was "No, I am your father."

Admittedly, to someone who isn't as obsessive about the films, "Luke, I am your father" sounds better simply because of the fact that it gives context when the line is taken out of the context of the film.

As for C-3PO, his legs aren't entirely silver though. One of them is silver below the knee, and the rest is gold. It was super hard to tell in the original trilogy though, and was only easier to see after they were digitally remastered.



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RhealaineS
Whoooa! It was my first time hearing butterfly effect. I was shocked that that phrase was not real.



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Youngshark
Me too. I am shocked as a matter of fact going through the posts that people have made over here. So much room to learn inside that skull of mine...hahaha



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Martinsx1
My understanding about the butterfly effect is when you try to change something from the past, it's definitely going to change something in the present which is certainly not going to be good at all. It's actually why it's always advised to let the past stay in the past.



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ballyhara
Agree, and that's why we have to let the past where it is. If people could change the past, then we will be lost, imagine everybody going back and making a huge mess. What makes the movie great, is that it shows exactly what could happen if we could try to "fix" whatever we think is wrong, consequences can be devastating.



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DenisP
Yeah this is actually something I wanted to point out. The Butterfly Effect and the Mandela Effect are two different things.

The Mandela Effect proposes that there are alternate realities that we are constantly phasing in and out of, which results in certain changes in the fabric of our own reality.

The Butterfly Effect is the alteration of something seemingly insignificant in the past, which results in drastic changes in the future. An example of this would be killing an insect millions of years ago, and that somehow leading to something drastic like humans never evolving.



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aecel
I remember that I watched Butterfly Effect movie starring Ashton Kutcher and Amy Smart. This was my favorite movie when it released in the year 2004. I've never thought it existed because it was just a supernatural movie. From what I understand in this movie, Ashton Kutcher was trying to change the past event that happened to him but there's always a bad effect when he tried to change it. So far I've never experienced Butterfly Effect but I think I've already encountered Déjà vu.



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Kakashi2020
Well the Mandela Effect is a kind of Butterfly Effect in which present reality changes but people still remembers the old reality for example is Sex in the City, I remember it as such and not the present day Sex and the City. Also Star Wars droid C3PO which was color gold from head to foot but now it seems it's legs are now Silver.



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mitan143
Honestly, this is the first time I've heard about "Butterfly Effect" so I thank you for this topic. After reading the content of your topic, I got suddenly excited to search it and yes I've searched it already a few minutes ago and there's one video from YouTube created by Top5s. The video shows and explains Butterfly Effect's relevance to our World's history. It got me somehow to think for a while and my reaction is- yes, what ifs? What if it did not happened at all? What if he wasn't born? And what if some things did not happened in my life? Just some questions. But there's a quote that interests me in the video, it was quoted as "The decisions you make today matter. Every decision points in your life in the direction you are about to travel. No decision is an isolated choice. It's a chain of events".

The quote is a mind blown, and it is definitely true. I think everyone understands and knows it.



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Steve5
Hey, I actually remember watching that video if I'm not mistaken. That quote struck a cord in me in the best way possible. It's like one of those insanely deep sayings formed from common words. It just goes to show how creativity creates quality. The closest example I can think of is from the famous quote in "Blade Runner."

"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain." How about that?



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Kakashi2020
Actually what you've watch was all about the Butterfly Effect, I'm very sorry but I forgot to include that this kind of Butterfly Effect is called the Mandela Effect. Again my apologies.



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mitan143
Alright, I see. Nevertheless, you have given a certain idea to study on. I got interested in this anyway. This is my first time to know butterfly effect or mandela effect or whatever it is, really. Or is it just that I can't connect it to my country's own version of this. I don't know, but I think I'll get it later on.



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Kakashi2020
Search for Mandela Effect it's what I'm writing about, it's a kind of Butterfly Effect in which subtle changes in our present reality has been made. But a lot of people still has memories of the old reality.



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Steve5
That's the weird thing about it. I feel like some of us could be living proofs of the previous timeline/s or alternate realities. But with no way to prove it and us doubting ourselves, we just can't seem to win.



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bienn05
Yes, I also believed that there is a path for everyone. Like the famous quote "Everything happens for a reason", everything is indeed will happen for a reason. All are connected. You will just be amazed how God created this.



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jaymish3
I ve never heard of the butterfly effect before this commentary. Your description sounds like rumors and hearsay, is that some kind of effect? With the spread of the internet and social media, they are millions of rumors everyday. Oprah Winfrey alone has been rumored to have died a million times. In my opinion the butterfly effect is just unverified rumors.



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Kakashi2020
I've experienced it personally, case in point is the Jiffy Peanut Butter brand which now it seems doesn't exist. But for a lot of middle age people it did existed, but now only in our memories.



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aeon
All I know about the butterfly effect is how your simple idea affect the millions of people. or something like your simple step could change your destiny, something like that, but the Mandela effect is something like more on fake news right now. A lot of people believes on something like memes, The Butterfly Effect sharing on Facebook, don't even know if it's true or not.



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Kakashi2020
A good example of the Mandela Effect is the hit show which even I remembered having a title of "Sex in the City" well it seems it's now Sex and the City. Sometimes there are only small changes but other times the changes are major.



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aeon
Yeah, I think he just confuse about the butterfly and Mandela effect. Butterfly effect possible to happen in a simple step, like some people says that tons of butterfly could cause of strong wind if they fly together, and Mandela effect is something like you recognize the wrong things and believe it's true.



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EfficientNinja
I have a different understanding of The Butterfly Effect. If you have watched the anime "Erased" or "Boku Dake Ga Inai Machi" in Japanese, or have played the game "Life is Strange" and "Until Dawn", you'll know that Butterfly Effect triggers when you do something in the present that could change the future. A small unnoticeable change that you have done in the past or present could make strong ripples in the timeline and could drastically change the future, for better or worse.

It could even trigger something like parallel universes. But that is a topic for another day.



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Kakashi2020
Yep you're right that is the Butterfly Effect but what I'm talking about is a kind of Butterfly Effect called the Mandela Effect which means present reality has been changed but people are still remembering the old reality.



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EfficientNinja
I see. I might have to learn more about the Mandela Effect. It seems to be a subtype of The Butterfly Effect.

I think I might have experienced it though. I have watched the music video of "New Divide" by Linkin Park. In the past, they have Transformers in the music video. But when I watched it again this year it seems to be removed but the views and the details of the video aren't affected. I don't know if YouTube itself edited the video or what though. The Butterfly Effect



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Martinsx1
This is exactly what I understand Butterfly Effect to be. When you interfere with the past timeline of something that had happen before, it's going to have a direct negative impact on what is going to happen in the present and future time. Take for instance, if one has the power to raise the dead and actually did bring a dead person back to life, somewhere someplace another life is lost to balance the equation and it may not be just one life that would be lost.



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Kakashi2020
That's quite right but it seems that some of us still remember a different reality and that causes the Mandela Effect, do the question is why it doesn't affect everyone? It can't be mass hysteria.

We can't say that it's imagination or something because a lot of people are having different memories of the past. There's even weirder things that up until now has no explanations but has been proven an anomaly like Mirages.



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mitan143
Oh. Speaking of anime, I remembered one that I have watched before that has something to do or related to Butterfly Effect is Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu or shortly known as Re:Zero. Have you watched it already? The first part is travelling back in time to change the future because the MC has already known what will be going next to happen in the situation he's currently in. Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu



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EfficientNinja
Yup. I've watched that one too! It's one of the best animes that I've watched and I forgot to mention it in my comment.

Do you know if they will continue the anime?



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mitan143
Nice. I'm glad to know that. Well, I don't have any news about the continuation for season 2, but the latest update is there's already an OVA which is entitled Re:Zero - Starting Life In Another World that will be screened in Japanese theaters in Fall 2018. I'm not sure if you already know it, but I just want to inform you in case you haven't heard of it. And usually there will be an upcoming new season after the OVA, right?



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aeon
This is how I understand the butterfly effect also. The small impact from the past could change the future. It's looks like the ability to go back to the past and change the future.



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Kakashi2020
I forgot to include that my examples are called Mandela Effect which is a kind of Butterfly Effect, my apologies. You can search the internet for Mandela Effect to see the different scenarios. You might find a subject that relates to you.



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Corzhens
I think those false memories were caused by false facts that we had during our younger years as stated in your example about the brand of peanut butter. And now with the social media where rumors and fake news are spreading, there will be a lot of butterfly effect in the future. Another reason for the false memory is the eyesight. Sometimes there is the thing called optical illusion that you see something which is not there or which is not really what you think it is. And after that, you will believe that you have seen a UFO but that was not the fact.



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EfficientNinja
I also think it could be caused by things we call De Ja Vu. Sometimes our brain bugs or glitches out that it sends some new memories to the long-term memory instead of the short-term memory. This is sometimes the reason that we think we've seen things before or we've known things for a long time but it's just our brain that failed to put our memories in the right place.



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Kakashi2020
Okay then explain how Mirages work. Because it's been catalogued in both both photos and videos and there are even annual mirage events that are now tourist attractions but until now it can't be explained and is still classified as an anomaly.



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treecko142
Are you talking about any specific mirage? Because mirages just happen when light is refracted as it passes through the hot and cold layers of air in the environment, usually when the air is cool but the ground is very hot, which warms the air just above the ground.



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Kakashi2020
That's the definition of Mirages by science but in reality scientists can't prove it. Like this one mirage that's been a tourist attraction for decades now where every year you would see shadows marching down a castle I just forgot the place though. There are also Mirages that are documented that looks like a scene from the past. But what's really a mystery is that Mirages are always deserted places, why aren't there any people around. You can also search another phenomenon tied up with Mirages called "Bleedthroughs".



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DenisP
I like to believe in paranonormal-ish stuff like déjà vu and the Mandela Effect, but there is always some sort of logical explanation. I've considered the whole "Jiffy" vs "Jif" argument before, and I feel like there is a simple explanation. The two main brands of peanut butter in the United States were always Jif and Skippy. In my household, we'd sometimes buy Jif and sometimes Skippy depending on which was on sale. I noticed that we'd sometimes refer to Jif as Jiffy because we'd get it mixed up with the other brand, Skippy. Jif + Skippy = Jiffy. Simple explanations like that can easily debunk many instances of the Mandela Effect.



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Kakashi2020
I thought of that too but I am familiar with Skippy because it's sold here in every grocery in the Philippines. Another example is Sex in the City which is now Sex and the City.



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treecko142
Sex and the City has always been Sex and the City. Sex in the City is a common misunderstanding, mostly by people who haven't really watched the show. The Jiffy and Jif argument falls in the same category.



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Chinet23
Same here. I'm only familiar with Skippy back in my childhood days and didn't have jif. I think it's possible that we remember Sex in the city because it's more cohesive as a phrase as compared to the latter Sex and the City which are two separate and unrelated entities. That's just my thoughts because it's hard to explain the events which have Mandela effect. Sometimes our minds and even our senses could be deceiving and have the tendency to perceive what everyone else does.



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treecko142
The Butterfly Effect is different from the Mandela Effect. And I strongly believe that the Mandela Effect is just people misremembering stuff, or mixing a reality with another true thing, but resulting in a wrong version of the truth,



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aeon
Yeah, you're right. The Mandela effect is just how our mind works. We read the words and memorized it based on the familiarity or usual spelling or the words or sentence. It can also apply it in some situation or events.



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treecko142
Yeah, which is why the Mandela Effect is only becoming prominent now when the Internet became available. People can easily look for information, where they then find out something not right from what they remember, but the truth is that they were the ones wrong in the first place.



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aeon
Right, because sometimes we are not paying attention to what we are reading, because our mind already memorized the word and we agree with that when we read some certain word. beside we were to young before and our interest is the product and not the name.



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treecko142
Yeah, this pretty much sums it up. This is supported by the fact that most of the issues that are surfacing now concern people fitting the age group living as children/teens in the period just before the internet was available.



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iamawriter
The Butterfly effect is nothing but a minor thing having a great effect elsewhere. To give you an example if your watch showed wrong timings imagine its effect on your life. Perhaps you will miss your flight which means you cannot get on time for that appointment and those people would have to cancel that appointment and keep it for another day, your hotel bookings will have to change..........................I could go on and on.



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Kakashi2020
There are some accounts which can really be explained like the "Brutus or Bluto" but there are some accounts that will make you think like Marilyn Monroe's true name which people swear to be Norma Jean but it's now Norma Jeane.



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jaybee19
The Mandela Effect actually happens in real life. Based from my observations, this kind of effect happens mostly with grown-ups who thought that something from their childhood existed but they've realized in the present that it didn't really exist or they got the wrong idea of that something.

I can actually relate to this because before during my childhood there was this 'toy flip-phone' which was very popular in our country and every time you press the buttons of that toy flip-phone, the toy will play a music. During my childhood up until my early teenage years I thought the music's lyrics was 'Ayayay ang galing ng butterfly (Ayayay the butterfly is very good)', unfortunately I realized I was very wrong when I googled it in 2010 I guess. The music's lyrics actually goes like this 'Ay ee ay ee ay I'm your little butterfly' LOL.

I actually felt very embarrassed because I always sing that song because it's very catchy but unfortunately I got the wrong idea of the lyrics. Luckily, I'm not the only one who thinks that the first lyrics I wrote is the right lyrics for the song because most of my childhood friends think the same.



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amelia88
It's definitely an interesting concept. To me it really highlights the flaws in human memory - it's worrying in a way when you think about it...I guess my worries are in the sense of people who have been wrongly convicted of crimes for instance, because someone believes they saw or heard something, when in actual fact they were wrong.



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mitan143
I think it is because people's minds are powerful.



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jaybee19
Exactly. Basing from all of the legal dramas and movies I've watched as well as real videos of court hearings, I am also worried that there might be witnesses who've just thought that they've witnessed something but in fact they didn't. Not to mention the pressure which attorneys and the prosecutors give while interrogating them.



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Kakashi2020
The weird thing is you really don't know what to think anymore if it's just a memory flaw or a problem of comprehension or if something strange is really going on because people who have experienced the Mandela Effect swear that they are really familiar with a different reality. Moreover dont you think that if it's all a mistake that people would just accept it?



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jaybee19
Exactly. Humans hate to admit when it comes to their mistakes. As a human myself, it degrades my pride whenever I realize I am wrong therefore I don't always admit my mistakes. It makes me feel weak and it also destroys my dignity. However, if it's just a slight mistake and it's no big deal try my best to admit it and move on.



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Vinsanity
This is indeed an interesting topic. There is this game I saw in YouTube and it is mainly about the butterfly effect. It is a decision making game. You need to save all of your friends' lives by doing wise decisions. Based on my understanding from that game, what you do today, can do big changes in the future.
For example you did not reply to a message sent to you by a friend, after a few years you might end up being enemies. Another scenario can be made from this example. If we consider you replying to this friend, you might end up getting hurt or being hated by another person.



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treecko142
Yeah, every action or decision you make, no matter how small, can potentially affect another person or another outcome in the future. A single instance of your spending 5 more minutes browsing the internet could mean that you miss riding a bus which was supposed to be in an accident in 5 minutes, or getting hit by a bus because you didn't leave early. Either way, there is no way of knowing until it's too late.



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aeon
Never heard that game and I think it's really interesting. That's how the butterfly effect, the outcome of simple action today. But I think we will forget this one and will just remember if there's something happen to the future which is related to simple decision today.



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Judas2018
Basically, all humans are connected...And someone actions today can affect the life of another individual tomorrow. Hence The Butterfly Effect. It would be nice if we could go back in time and prevent these things from happening when they are negative actions that cause wars or genocides.



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mitan143
Yes, you are definitely right. I'm also against wars and to any conflicts and rivalries. If only we can go back in time and change the future, it would be good and the world will be a better place now. It may sound unrealistic today, but the world needs peace to all mankind right now.



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Steve5
The sad thing is that as much as we want to prevent terrible things from happening, we can't. Even if it were possible, we can't stop every horrible event. There's a balance to how the world operates.



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Kakashi2020
I think going back in time to change the present is unethical and could have serious implications, as some theorists have said a small change in the past can cause a big change in the present more so in the future. Time travel it seems is a dangerous thing that in my opinion shouldn't be done.



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Judas2018
This is true. Changing the past can greatly alter the future. But sometimes, it seems worth the trouble. It also depends on what scale you alter the past. If you change one small thing, I believe the risk of changing the future in a negative way, are smaller. Versus a large scale rearranging of past events.



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Kakashi2020
In my opinion time travel is feasible if you're going to travel forward in time but I dont think that it's feasible to travel back in time. There was an experiment conducted by Albert Einstein in which atomic clocks where placed on earth and one on a satellite on board a rocket that was launched to space. When the clock orbiting the earth was brought back and compared to the one that stayed on earth, the time on it was slower than the one which was on earth. This proves that if you are traveling very fast then time slows down.



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Pixie06
This is a very interesting topic. I watched several videos on YouTube to better understand this concept. I have to admit that I have experienced the Mandela effect. There used to be only one canteen at the primary school that I attended but I have always believed that there were two canteens. My sister and cousin attended the same school and whenever I brought up this topic they would just laugh at me and state that I have a 'weird' memory.



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Kakashi2020
To tell you honestly I was in grade school when our adviser told us that Nelson Mandela died in prison I didn't give it any though but decades after that I was surprised to see Mandela winning the elections and becoming the president of South Africa, then at the back of my mind, I was thinking, I thought this guy died years ago and then I just didn't think of it anymore. Then a few months back I saw a video in YouTube about the Jiffy Peanut Butter Mandela Effect and I can't believe it since i was so familiar with the brand having 2 F's and a Y at the end buy it seems it didn't existed and we're left with a Peanut butter brand JIF, who would name a Peanut Butter brand JIF? It's competitor is SKIPPY. JIF was first sold in 1958 and during those days Jiffy was a word being used synonymous to speed like "in a jiffy", which is more suitable for a peanut butter brand since you can make a tasty sandwich for your kid in a jiffy by using JIFFY peanut butter.

I think something is really off, something happened or is happening changing things and events, somethings messing with reality.



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vivalavanda
According to my knowledge, The Butterfly Effect is different from The Mandela Effect, they are not the same. The Butterfly Effect is one of the theories of Time Travel wherein a person will change a little thing in the past but it will have a greater impact on what will happen in the future, so let's just forget what happened in the past and move on to the future. The Mandela Effect is exactly what you described, an event or thing that everybody remembers vividly but it never happened. One of the greatest examples is the "Sex in the City" never happened but it was "Sex and the City" all along.

I recommend you to watch The Butterfly Effect movie, that was one hella good movie, it will stir your mind of the plot.



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Marako0406
True enough! I've watched the two movies titled "The Butterfly Effect" and The Butterfly Effect 2" and it was an amazing movie about the time travel theory. I guess a some point in time of our past and future there's really a power within our minds that as we grow old we forget other memories and replace them with different ones and sometimes we mix 'em that's why we remember about it in a different way around.



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mdayrit
I am not really aware of what the butterfly effect is so I got interested and read the topic and comments. While reading each comment, what comes in my mind first is the movie Premonition but later on I am starting to realize that it is different from the butterfly effect. As I go thru the other comments, what came next to me is that the butterfly effect is like Deja vu. But I think, for me to have a clearer understanding of what it is, I would be watching the movies mentioned in the comment. It really got me interested to know more about this.



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Kakashi2020
Well I've been researching the Mandela Effect which is a kind of Butterfly Effect and it's basically explained as things we remember that really doesn't exist or events we remembered happening in the past which really didn't happened at all. My conclusion is either it's done kind of individual mass hysteria since unknown people from different parts of the globe would say that the event happened or a certain thing existed which did not. Or it could be that something short of mystical is really happening and reality is changing.



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romyter013
These happened to me too. Something we do believe in but not really exist at all. But what Im thinking about it was I guess possible of all of the memories that I recalled since I was a kid are just part of my dreams. Something that we thought it happened, thought its true but they were all contrary in reality.



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Aeolos
I think Mandela Effect is a incident people remembers as true but found out was not true after all. Some people would might remember some rumors about something and would later on identify it as a fact. During the course of time, many people will also accept this and will eventually become common truth about certain issues. This happened to African leader Nelson Mandela who supposedly died but later become president. For me butterfly effect is when an incident many miles from you will affect you in any other way that even a flap of a butterfly somewhere will cause a massive storm in the Pacific.



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jetselle
It is formally known as chaos theory. Newton and others trusted that the mechanics of the universe was reasonable and unsurprising. More like a perfect timing association of issue and powers. 'This thing hits that, subsequently that thing moves that way and stuff' exceptionally unsurprising. In any case, once tries turned out to be more exact, critical figures turned out to be more essential. It wound up harder to deliver similar outcomes regardless of whether the given beginning parameters are about indistinguishable yet giving immensely unique results. It isn't what Newtonian mechanics anticipated, it is unquestionably mind boggling that we've at any point thought.



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NerdIndeed
Woah, now this is weird and interesting. It is the first time that I have heard of this and have never encountered something similar with my life. Maybe it has something to do with what one individual believes in something that seems to be true knowing later in life that it was indeed false.



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theresajane
Wow! I haven't heard of this even before. I sure would like to learn more about this. A human's mind really works in mysterious ways. I will read some more articles about this. Thank you.



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nrnlss
I think Mandela effect is different from butterfly effect. Butterfly effect is when one simple actions turns to have a really big effect on the society, world or in you. While the Mandela effect is when a lot of people remember something yet it turn out wrong, just like what you have stated.



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allyn2017
That's what I thought too. I am now confused, because I've searched butterfly effect before and it is different from Mandela effect.



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jpk0007
Well, I have never experienced any such thing as a butterfly effect in my life. However, I have experienced the feeling of deja vu many times in my life. The feeling that we have visited some places before even if we are visiting them for the first time. Also meeting some people for the first time and feeling a connection to them as if we have been knowing them for a very long time.



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YoloBoy
i have experienced this last year. Me and a couple of my friends were just partying one night and we all decide to throw these rocks at an old car. We didn't expect much because the car was already abandoned and old but what happened next was something we did not expect at all. A man came out of the car and started to chase us. At first I thought it was a prank but seeing all my friends beside me made me think that can't be any of us. So we all ran to my house and locked the door. We called the cops but the guy got away fast. Who knew a small rock can make such a chaos.



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